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Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/20/2006  6:35:00 AM
"Anonymous. I would say to anyone reading this to go and have a look for yourselves. try to copy as much as you can."

By all means study it. Especially one still at at time. Do that long enough, and you will conclude as others, including their creator have, that they are not quite right. But it's a great place to start gaining familiarity with the issues!

"Remembering this is a Forward Step. It could be the first step of a Feather Step."

No, rise and CBM would be required. The details of the action would be quite different.

"Or the first Step of a Natural Turn in the Waltz."

No, rise and CBM would be required. The details of the action would be quite different.

"The action is the same. It doesn't alter."

Proof of your beginner status!

"If its Waltz you turn at the end of and not into."

You do both - your body is not a single monolith, different parts of it turn at different points. And there is still the upswing, with its related change in the foot timing.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/20/2006  3:44:00 PM
Anonymous. Sometimes you have a very devous way of writing which I don't think is an accident.
Anybody reading your comments would come to the conclusion that I said there was footrise, which I did not. For your benifit In the Waltz we commence to rise at the end of one. In the Foxtrot we rise at the end of one. Do you remember when I pointed out that there is also no lowering on one except the natural loss of height with the step. Anybody not familiar with this. We have lowered at the end of three, on an (and) count if this is a Waltz. No further lowering is required.
Devious again. The creator of those computer clips did not say they were wrong. The way I remember it was ,you questioned one position out of many. He said that a better one, which to me meant that if he went forward or even backward you would have nothing to complain about. You might also remember that an actuall frame by frame of a real couple was put on for your benifit.And of course you said that was wrong. It's all there to read among a multitude of other stupid criticisms.
My favourite is still on a Back Lock that the shoulders does not go back with the hip.
You changed your mind about that one didn't you. For somebody who has only danced for a reletively short time. You have a hide Sir.
I'm glad you mentioned CBM.
As you are aware there is CBM whether it is a Waltz or a Foxtrot on that first step. Now have you changed your tune. You told every body that the left side leads with no CBM. Did you or did you not say exactly that on a LF lead into a Reverse Turn.
I say once again that on one step forward as in the clips. Whether it be a Waltz or a Foxtrot is the same including the neutral position at the end of the step where if it was Waltz the turn would take place.All blended in of course. Also with the correct use of CBM on the preceding step.

Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/20/2006  3:58:00 PM
Don,

you get caught trusting the authority of a video clip that has been disclaimed as needing correction by it's own author, and your response is to dig up every other time that YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG in the past?

You really don't learn, do you?
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/20/2006  4:52:00 PM
Anonymous. With my many years of experience. The mental images of how a dance should be performed plus the changes that differ from the way it was originaly taught, are all stored away. The changes that have occured aren't that many. One very noticable one is right at the beginning A Closed Change is no longer as it is in the technique book. although many would still teach that way.Like a car ,the model has been superceded. You were strangely very quiet on your last posting. You comletely ignored the questions. I might have to ask them again.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/20/2006  9:10:00 PM
"The changes that have occured aren't that many."

The videos don't need to be updated because the dances have changed, but because Jonathan's understanding of them has improved just a little bit over the past eight years.

"You comletely ignored the questions. I might have to ask them again."

Only because you've ignored literally hundreds of answers you were already given. If you are going to keep repeating questions, I'm going to have to develop a database of stock answers for them... it's getting silly retyiping everytime when you plainly can't read!
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/21/2006  9:53:00 PM
Anybody wishing to see what a Forward or Backward Walk should look like, and whether the foot goes first going either Forward or Backward.
Go to the Learning Section and find the above walks on a moving clip
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/22/2006  9:21:00 AM
"Anybody wishing to see what a Forward or Backward Walk should look like, and whether the foot goes first going either Forward or Backward.
Go to the Learning Section and find the above walks on a moving clip"

You left out that this is an INTERMEDIATE's interpretation of the walk.

The creator of those images has improved his knowledge substantially in the past 8 years, but doesn't have the software to regenerate them.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/22/2006  12:58:00 PM
Anonymous. The more you write the deeper you go.
So tell me and the rest of us how a Forward Walk has altered since 1998. In fact tell us how it has altered since 1918. This also includes a Backward Walk. Lets hear how it has altered since Josophine Bradly first wrote an instruction sheet. and Victor Silvester danced it just after World War 1.
Either put up or shut up writing about something you know nothing about.
The images on the Learning Centre for all to see.
If you could do them that good you wouldn't be writing such dribble. You would be complementing the author ,which I am doing now, instead of running him down.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/23/2006  8:23:00 AM
" So tell me and the rest of us how a Forward Walk has altered since 1998. "

Don, admit it you just don't read do you?

I already posted - and you obviously ignored - this:

The videos don't need to be updated because the dances have changed, but because Jonathan's understanding of them has improved just a little bit over the past eight years.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/23/2006  1:21:00 PM
Anonymous. I come to the conclusion that you do not bend flex re-charge or whatever you care to call it . You do not bend your knees. Therefore you never get that 45 degree angle that will result by bending the knees. The only way you can get your body in front of the legs is to have 1950's legs.
If the knee is bending and the body is verticle the knee has to be ahead of body as on the last part of step 3 and on the beginning of step one. In this case the Reverse Turn.
When you look at the computer images I don't think you see any of the above mentioned. Some people call the inabilty to see the whole picture. Tunnel Vision.
I was trying to get a blow by blow description of a Feather which you have never given. So answer this. Do you have flexed knees at the end of a Forward or a Backward Walk.
Looking at the stills the third one. Do you believe we should come over that straight leg with no flexing of the knee onto the next step.
Yes or no will do. Then we can take it from there. A beginner wants to know.

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