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What does CBMP mean?
Posted by Tara Tot107
10/30/2002  2:05:00 PM
Hey everyone. I am trying to learn the dances but I don't know what CBMP means. Can some please tell me?
re: What does CBMP mean?
Posted by operabob
11/3/2002  11:18:00 AM
lia,

thanks for your effort.

who says a thread has to just answer the original question.

why can't it lead in other directions as well?

why this discussion could go in the direction of what constitutes loutish behaviour.

keep 'em coming!

OB
re: What does CBMP mean?
Posted by Dronak
11/1/2002  2:14:00 PM
Originally posted by SocialDancer:

If we ask a beginner/non-dancer to step forward LF but to place the LF in line with the RF then we _may_ get CBMP, but I think it more likely that we will get a left side lead.


First, what a non-dancer does is irrelevant. Who cares if they do it wrong, they're not dancing and that's what we're discussing. And if a dancer does it wrong then they're screwing up their frame. You might get away with the wrong action by yourself, but with a partner it won't work properly and you'll soon figure out the right way to do it. I'm not sure what would happen if you tried to put the wrong side fwd like that while dancing with a partner -- I'm guessing you'd end up unbalanced to some degree.


It was the "naturally" brings the opposite side forward I had problems with. Natural for a dancer familiar with the feel of CBMP but not necessarily for a beginner.


OK, a total beginner may not get it right away. But he/she will be taught how to do it correctly from the start since it's a basic technique. Beginners aren't going to be allowed to take the wrong side forward and if they do it anyway they'll find out soon enough why they shouldn't. Maybe "naturally" isn't the ideal word for 100% of the cases, but when talking about dancers, it's going to hold true for just about everyone who's out of the absolute beginner stage and has learned CBM(P) already. I think the overall percentage of absolute beginners is small enough that my statement was still pretty accurate.

P.S. -- the actual phrase was "pretty naturally". I specifically avoided saying "naturally" alone to imply that there's a chance it won't be completely natural for everyone, all of the time.

--
James Marshall
marshall@astro.umd.edu
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall
CBM vs CBMP
Posted by SocialDancer
10/31/2002  5:37:00 PM
This is probably more than Tara Tot107 was expecting to hear but I'd like to come back on Dronak's comments comparing CBM and CBMP.

Yes the last part of each phrase is the important part. CBM is a Movement. Moving the opposite side of the body towards the moving foot provides the body swing needed to turn so CBM is always used to initiate a turn.

CBMP is a Position and doesn't have a turning movement. The opposite side of the body is already "leading" and the foot is placed on or across the line of the standing foot to retain that body position. I don't believe that the act of placing one foot in line with the other would naturally result in CBMP, not from a standing square, feet together, starting point anyway.

Just to confuse things even more, some steps require both CBM and CBMP.

Such things are better seen demonstrated than described Tara, so try to get a teacher to show you the difference, and also to let you feel the result.

Howard
CBMP
Posted by SocialDancer
10/30/2002  2:29:00 PM
It stands for Contra(ry) Body Movement Position.
Checkout the Dance Dictionary in the Learning Centre on this site.

It's normally used when stepping Outside Partner (also in the dictionary) to maintain body contact so that the couple dances as one, not two people side by side.

HTH

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