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Spin turns with heavy ladies
Posted by Philipp
10/13/2001  4:20:00 PM
Dear Friends,

Once again I had an experience today that I've had in the past, of dancing with a slightly overweight lady who was competent enough to allow me to take many vastly (my speciality) overturned spin turns besides other overturned things. We danced just beautifully but... My right wrist really hurt after that. Has anyone had the same problem and come to a solution? I wonder if I should have to take so much of her momentum on my wrist, and whether to even wear protective bandages or something!
Thanks for your replies!

Regards,

Philipp

so you want to sweep the ladies off their feet literally.
Posted by joelwood
10/16/2001  7:10:00 AM
Don't over turn. The reason you have to lift them is overturning takes your body out of the ideal alignment and as such you create a distorted space for her to dance in, which usually means in response she will need to lean on your arm because of what you are doing technically. Now that is the quick ewasy computer answer but the real fix to this problem is in your private lessons where your teacher wll be able to diagnose the problem and give you an appropriate set of exercises to improve your posture, technique, connection and communication. this is only refering to what you need socially. We add timing, styling, momentum, & floor craft when competing. Keep dancing.j. ;-p

jo

spin turn
Posted by flexi
10/29/2001  6:45:00 AM
Sounds to me like you are dealing with a poise problem. Even a light little thing can cause your wrist and arm (not to mention back ) to hurt if they are attempting to arch so far back that they are no longer in control of their weight.
First concider a few things. When you do a spin turn are you trying to keep her from falling away from you? One way to tell this is; are you losing body contact..... second , on the heel turn, is she trying to acually turn on her heels? If her weight is in her heels, she is definatly falling, and you will have to compensate by holding her up. thrid.. is she sustaining her rise untill the entire turn is done? sometimes ladies lower before the turn is done. Sometimes they just don't know any better, usually its a lack of ankel strenth, and almost always, bad poise.
A few thing to try that might help you out. Probably the most important, and most benificial piece of advise......... stand up!!!! If your lady is trying to maintain some kinda line by arching her back in some kind of rediculous angle to gain that "look", she is probably robbing you of lot's of mobility. Many ladys become sevearly back weighted by trying to maintain an "open top line". It is much better for her and especially her partner if she stands up straight and only "looks out". Something else, many people including a few coaches belive that contact is maintained at the hips. This is not really true. The contact point is higher, at the diaphragm. Here you should always feel a slight amount of pressure foward INTO you. Not back AWAY from you.
Poise is the feeling that you are ballanced and ready to move in any direction, without a well ballanced couple, the man will always feel like he has to " muscle " his partner, which is ALWAYS bad. Alex flexi@subdimension.com

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