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New and very interested
Posted by Melissa Cheyne-Devlin
9/3/1999  12:28:00 PM
Hi everybody. I am a professional figure skating coach in way upstate NY and am very interested in taking some dance lessons. Could anyone reccomend a good trainer resource, advice, and what is involved with competing in dance?
re: New and very interested
Posted by Sriram Shankar
9/3/1999  4:36:00 PM
Melissa,
Try these two links for places to dance/learn dancing in and around NY...
http://www-zeus.ncsa.uiuc.edu:8080/~hneeman/ballroom_info_us_hotlist.html

Look under NY for your area.... And try this link below that caters extensively to the Tri-state area
http://www.ee.princeton.edu/~aria/dancing.html

My ex-dance partner was a figure skater too and she took to dancing like fish to water. I am sure you are going to be good soon.. Good luck.

Sri.

re: New and very interested
Posted by dancing dave
9/28/1999  1:12:00 AM
Stay away from Arthur Murray's or Fred Astaires or any dance studio $$$$!!! Don't accept any teacher unless they are ISTD accredited...hard to find here but they are the best...don't waste your time dancing American style unless your into theatrics but go for International.
re: New and very interested
Posted by Dave L.
10/1/1999  12:24:00 AM
A friend of mine with 10 years experience told me that I should begin ballroom dancing with American styling and get through bronze level to cover all the dancing fundamentals and then consider international styling. Any comment?

Dave

re: New and very interested
Posted by weddingdance
10/6/1999  10:41:00 AM
As an American dancer, I've found that the only style of dancing I can do socially is American Style. International doesn't lend itself well to crowded dance floors.

I happened to learn American Style first, and often wondered whether I should have learned International first. When I teach someone a figure, I always teach it 'to the max', and tell them they can tone it down for each specific situation and dance partner's ability. I also teach them 'emergency escape maneuvers' right away, if their goal is social dancing.

On the other hand, my dance partner is from Austria, and he learned International Style first. We do a sort of mish-mosh of American/International socially, because he doesn't always have room for a full feather step.

So, for social dancers, I think start with American, since that's what you'll be using. If you want to compete, you might as well start with International, and learn to tone it down when need be.

And for heaven's sake, learn floorcraft!

(the whining will now begin)
I was standing on the edge of the dance floor where I teach, as far off it as I could get, and a couple trying to dance International style actually crashed into me. I wasn't even moving! And there were only about six couples on the floor. I could go on and on about getting poked in the eye because some college student wouldn't make her Rhumba arm movement 'smaller' to accomodate a crowded dance floor, but you get my point. I think (hope) someone learning American style would have stopped before crashing, and altered arm movement when necessary.

re: New and very interested
Posted by Sriram Shankar
10/7/1999  8:51:00 AM
I take offense to that derisive allusion about Intenational style dancers.. We NEVER crash into anyone....

Seriously though, floor craft is not learned better in one dance or the other. I think it has more to do with common sense and an intimate understanding of the repertoire of your moves and those that you can lead a partner to follow. And reciprocal leads sometimes are needed for the even the well schooled leader about when and where to step backing LOD for example. All of which comes from practise which includes running into people on occasion.

On a social dance floor, I typically do a mixture of American and International style figures just to avoid such collisions and to manoeuvre around slower moving couples - plus it alleviates the terrible muscle fatigue that I sometimes encounter from followers with no frame. But I have seen American style social dancers do a box step (4-6) in the middle of the fast lane as often as I have seen a whisk being done by inconsiderate International style dancers. And besides, do instructors nowadays even talk about the fast and slow lanes anymore? I surely am yet to see that emphasised on social ballroom dance floors although I have occasionally heard C-W dance DJ's impress that upon their patrons in bars.

I believe there should be more of an education of floor craft and etiquette at the beginner level.. I remember being a beginning dancer in Illinois where the instructor gave a lecture about how to apologize to everyone including your partner when you run into someone (and the proper norms of hygiene one must adopt when going to a dance). Makes one nostalgic.. ;o)

Well, enjoy dancing.
Sri.

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