"Anonymous. You have a habit of deliberately clouding the issue This time by drifting off to a Contre Check."

Only mentioned as an exception to what I was about to describe.

"At the end of step one there is a balance point then a flexing of the knee then commence to rise."

Not unless you artifically seperate the actions, as a beginner first learning what is involved might. When actually dancing, these things blur into each other.

"I'm stil intrigued by your body in front of the foot. than catching the weight.
I take it that when you arrive and before, your front foot has stopped moving. Do we agree there."

Yes, but it does not stop moving very much before the body arrives on it. It is only placed "just" in time to receive the body.

"As your foot arrives the body will will pass over the heal to the ball of the foot. Do we agree there."

Yes, though at this point the upswing has already begun.

"Then according to you the weight will go to a point of imbalance."

At this point your body is directly over the foot. Imbalance existed previously, and will exist somewhat later, but right now you are in a balanced position. Of course you won't stay there for very long as your body is moving past the standing foot.

"That means the foot is still, and the body is leaning forward. It is not verticle and you are leaning all over your partner."

No. You still miss the fundamental fact that imbalance does not imply lean - you still have not understood the fact that the body in picture two of the forward walk is OFF BALANCE BUT VERTICAL!!!!

However, in this case, because of the upswing any non-verticality would have you actually be leaning BACKWARDS.

"Are you as your feet are passing. Are you vericle or are you leaning forward deliberately out of balance."

As my feet are passing, I am vertical (or if not, then I must be leaning slightly backwards) but I am starting to opr about to go off balance FORWARDS because my body passes my standing foot slightly before my feet pass.

You get confused, becuase you still cannot see beyond your confusing of imbalance with leaning. They are EXTREMELY DIFFERENT things.

Anonymous. Here you go. Now your leaning bacwards. That's the first time you have mentioned leaning backwards. If you had I would have picked you up in a flash. Which way according to you is the lady leaning at this point.
We do not lean back or lean forward. We stay verticle.
Also you would do at the very least 99 % of whatis written in the book. In your own words you, I and all others who dance are robotic. This includes the current British Champion.
You don't get it do you. I'm sure most others do. You believe you are correct and then you spend time making your misbelief plausible, this is only in your own mind.
If the foot does not stay still the body will never catch up.When done correctly the body will catch up and there will be a movement of the body from the heel to the ball. But will remain verticle.
I think our mathmatical friends could come in here. The only way a body can catch a moving foot is to double the acceleration. But we have the beats of music to contend with . And then that sudden burst of speed and then stop. Is that possible unless we are competing in the Step Hop and Jump where the feet stop and the rest goes on. I could be wrong there, but I don't think so. Last don't confuse sway with leaning backwards it seems you might. Do try again.

"Anonymous. Here you go. Now your leaning bacwards."

At some point in a forward action with yes, yes, one is inclined backwards. During some of the time when that is true, the body will be off balance FORWARDS of the standing foot.

Leaning backwawrds but off balance forwareds... can you wrap your head around that?

"We do not lean back or lean forward. We stay verticle."

Not during sway you don't. Unless you are one who defines vertical as relative to the body instead of relative to the room, which some dancers do.

"In your own words you, I and all others who dance are robotic. This includes the current British Champion."

No, no champion dances according to the book. They are quite likely closer to it in some suprising ways than you are, and further form it in other suprising ways. The book is only a starting point - the art of dancing must go far beyond anything that can be written down, especially in a book maintianed by a committee which must agree on what goes into it.

"If the foot does not stay still the body will never catch up."

Of course the foot has to stop for the body to catch up. No one ever said otherwise. In fact, I believe it was I who pointed out that the body movement is continout but the feet start and stop.

"At some point in a forward action with yes, yes, one is inclined backwards. During some of the time when that is true, the body will be off balance FORWARDS of the standing foot."

should be "with sway, yes"

Anonymous. We are told to lift our ribcage and have a straight spine. If I with a straight spine am leaning forward to the point of imbalance, what angle is my body in relation to the floor. If I break at the the waist I am no longer standing straight.
To my understanding there is only one position where the man curves the spine backwards and that is on a Throwaway Oversway.

"If I with a straight spine am leaning forward to the point of imbalance"

DON'T DO THAT.

The imbalance comes from sending the body center past the standing foot. This has nothing at all to do with lean.

LEAN comes from sending the shoulder past the center.

You can lean and be balanced; you can also be unbalanced but not be leaning.

THEY ARE TWO INDEPENDENT THINGS!!!!

"If I break at the the waist I am no longer standing straight."

You should not break at the waist. Instead, the "break" in the body line would be at the knee or at the hip joint, depending on where you are in the action.

"To my understanding there is only one position where the man curves the spine backwards and that is on a Throwaway Oversway."

Actually that would be a whole family of lines; but what is really important is that there is nothing different fundamentally between this and ordinary dancing - it is just that the line has a lot more shape, while what is present in ordinary dancing is more limited. It wouldn't chose to exaclty describe any situation as "curves the spin backwards" though.

Anonymous. How can I send my body past the standing foot without leaning. Hold a broomstick in front of you with the bottom on the floor and the broomstick verticle. How do I get the top of the stick to a position that is forward of the bottom without it leaning.If I bend my knee with my weight over it I am at an angle. If I bend my knee and lower verticly my body is not in front of my foot. My knee is, but my body is behind my foot and that would be correct.

"Anonymous. How can I send my body past the standing foot without leaning."

By simply doing it. See picture 2 of the forward walk in the learning center for an example. You apparently refuse to believe that what the drawing there is doing is possible...

"Hold a broomstick in front of you with the bottom on the floor and the broomstick verticle. How do I get the top of the stick to a position that is forward of the bottom without it leaning."

Your body is not a broomstick. You have hips and knees. You use those to put your torso ahead of your standing foot, while your torse remains vertically aligned. No leaning - GET IT???

"If I bend my knee with my weight over it I am at an angle."

No necessarily. You torso can remain vertical - again, see picture two.

"If I bend my knee and lower verticly my body is not in front of my foot. My knee is, but my body is behind my foot and that would be correct."

No, that would be IMPROPER, but it is clearly what you insist on doing. You must send your entire torso forward, so that it remains VERTICALLY ALIGNED OVER YOUR KNEE. That will put it OFF BALANCE ahead of your foot. But with NO LEANING.

How you can still ignore what is so obvious in that picture is beyond me. Unless maybe you ENJOY taking IDIOTIC position purely to sustain an argument?

Anonymous. If your body is front of your foot you must be leaning. If you aren't leaning then your body is not in front of your feet. Is the top of the Leaning Tower of Pizza in front of the bottom. According to you it isn't.
If I draw a line through my ear to my foot. That is the centre of my body. Even if I took my nose as being my centre it is still not in front of my foot. look and ye shall see.

"Anonymous. If your body is front of your foot you must be leaning. If you aren't leaning then your body is not in front of your feet."

Try putting on your glasses and looking at the picture in learning center/forwared walk/second image.

The body is forward of the standing foot.

The body is vertical.

Deny either of those, and all you do is prove that you enjoy knowlingly arguing blatantly false claims.

"Is the top of the Leaning Tower of Pizza in front of the bottom. According to you it isn't."

The tower doesn't have knee or hips. Dancers do, and we use them to send our vertically aligned body ahead of our standing foot. WIHTOUT LEANING.

If I draw a line through my ear to my foot. That is the centre of my body. Even if I took my nose as being my centre it is still not in front of my foot.

If you want to keep your knees straight, draw a line from your head through you pelvis. Keeping that line vertical, inline your leg to move your body forward of your standing foot. You are now off balance forward of your standing foot, but you ARE NOT LEANING.

If you want to use your knee instead, draw a line from the top of your head through your standing knee. Keeping that line vertical, inline your shin only to move everything on that line (knee, hip, center, shoulder, head) forward of the standing foot while maintaining vertical alignemnt. You are not off balance forward of your standing foot WITHOUT LEANING. This is exactly what the dancer in that picture has done.

(though she's actually more off balance than she needs to be, as she has brought the substantial unsupported weight of her moving leg through too soon)

look and ye shall see.