Anonymous. Get a golf ball. Put a mark to the left and then one on the right. The left is the man. Turn rotate or even bowl it along the ground. The positions will not change. Find your direction then rotate, if you want to tell where the lady is in relation to the man as well as the direction, you have it in your hand.
For the rest I can only say. Well. What have I been saying.

"Anonymous. Get a golf ball. Put a mark to the left and then one on the right. The left is the man. Turn rotate or even bowl it along the ground. The positions will not change. Find your direction then rotate, if you want to tell where the lady is in relation to the man as well as the direction, you have it in your hand.
For the rest I can only say. Well. What have I been saying."

Dancers are not "points". Instead they are objects much larger than the distance between each other. Your analogy is fatally flawed, because it ignores this.

Anonymous. Put the two dots on the golf ball a little closer then.

"Anonymous. Put the two dots on the golf ball a little closer then."

Again, dancers are not "dots"

They are not collected into single points, instead the have substantial size. And the body does not rotate as a single unit either (you will fail to understand that part).

These things together permit some rotation of part of the body to occur, without one dancer actually passing the other.

Anonymous. Your not trying to tell me that in a revolving door all parts don't remain the same distance from each other.. Are you.

"Anonymous. Your not trying to tell me that in a revolving door all parts don't remain the same distance from each other.. Are you."

Dancer's bodies are not revolving doors.

If you want to dance while using you body like a revolving door, you would have to take a funny path of arcs across the floor. Some people do dance like that... but its been pretty much superseded by those with the flexibility to sustain more linear movements linked by more lilting and shaped turns.

Anonymous. The topic was when we rotate , turn . Do we stay in the same position in relation to each other. the same as a revolving door does to its other sides. The answer is YES YES.

"Anonymous. The topic was when we rotate , turn . Do we stay in the same position in relation to each other. the same as a revolving door does to its other sides. The answer is YES YES."

Well you are in fact mistaken about the topic. The topic is what happens when we go outside partner.

And I pointed out that you in fact do not pass your partner to go outside partner.

You only pass your partner if you are dancing a TURN, which is to say changing the track of movement.

If you are going to do that, then yes, you will pass your partner, much as your comment quoted above seems to say. But if you are merely going to go outside partner, you will stretch past your partner, but will not actually pass him or her.

Anonymous. I think the term used was a feeling of going past your partner. Which seems to be the same as your last sentance. Just to refresh the memory. I believe I quoted John Wood who says the man passes the lay to his right side. He doesn't mean move her away from her original position. This is why I went to the revolving door as an example. starting square . If the man leads with his left side. If you had to explain where the lady will be in relation to the man and the direction they are travelling. Where would you say she is. I'll tell you where she isn't and that's up front.

" If you had to explain where the lady will be in relation to the man and the direction they are travelling. Where would you say she is. I'll tell you where she isn't and that's up front."

And that is precisly the inexcusable error. You MUST NOT PASS your partner in an outside parnter action that is part of a linear figure. If it is a turning figure, you may pass your parnter, but not if it is a linear figure - then you may only stretch past, while letting your partner remain in front of you.

Get that wrong, and you dance hip, or even get her stuck behind you, making any following reverse turn rather difficult (Aha - maybe that is the mistaken interst in neutralization - you have to give her a chance to catch up and get back into position from where she was being dragged under your arm???)