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Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/20/2006  9:10:00 PM
"The changes that have occured aren't that many."

The videos don't need to be updated because the dances have changed, but because Jonathan's understanding of them has improved just a little bit over the past eight years.

"You comletely ignored the questions. I might have to ask them again."

Only because you've ignored literally hundreds of answers you were already given. If you are going to keep repeating questions, I'm going to have to develop a database of stock answers for them... it's getting silly retyiping everytime when you plainly can't read!
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/21/2006  9:53:00 PM
Anybody wishing to see what a Forward or Backward Walk should look like, and whether the foot goes first going either Forward or Backward.
Go to the Learning Section and find the above walks on a moving clip
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/22/2006  9:21:00 AM
"Anybody wishing to see what a Forward or Backward Walk should look like, and whether the foot goes first going either Forward or Backward.
Go to the Learning Section and find the above walks on a moving clip"

You left out that this is an INTERMEDIATE's interpretation of the walk.

The creator of those images has improved his knowledge substantially in the past 8 years, but doesn't have the software to regenerate them.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/22/2006  12:58:00 PM
Anonymous. The more you write the deeper you go.
So tell me and the rest of us how a Forward Walk has altered since 1998. In fact tell us how it has altered since 1918. This also includes a Backward Walk. Lets hear how it has altered since Josophine Bradly first wrote an instruction sheet. and Victor Silvester danced it just after World War 1.
Either put up or shut up writing about something you know nothing about.
The images on the Learning Centre for all to see.
If you could do them that good you wouldn't be writing such dribble. You would be complementing the author ,which I am doing now, instead of running him down.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/23/2006  8:23:00 AM
" So tell me and the rest of us how a Forward Walk has altered since 1998. "

Don, admit it you just don't read do you?

I already posted - and you obviously ignored - this:

The videos don't need to be updated because the dances have changed, but because Jonathan's understanding of them has improved just a little bit over the past eight years.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/23/2006  1:21:00 PM
Anonymous. I come to the conclusion that you do not bend flex re-charge or whatever you care to call it . You do not bend your knees. Therefore you never get that 45 degree angle that will result by bending the knees. The only way you can get your body in front of the legs is to have 1950's legs.
If the knee is bending and the body is verticle the knee has to be ahead of body as on the last part of step 3 and on the beginning of step one. In this case the Reverse Turn.
When you look at the computer images I don't think you see any of the above mentioned. Some people call the inabilty to see the whole picture. Tunnel Vision.
I was trying to get a blow by blow description of a Feather which you have never given. So answer this. Do you have flexed knees at the end of a Forward or a Backward Walk.
Looking at the stills the third one. Do you believe we should come over that straight leg with no flexing of the knee onto the next step.
Yes or no will do. Then we can take it from there. A beginner wants to know.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/23/2006  4:07:00 PM
". I come to the conclusion that you do not bend flex re-charge or whatever you care to call it . You do not bend your knees. Therefore you never get that 45 degree angle that will result by bending the knees. The only way you can get your body in front of the legs is to have 1950's legs."

Well you are wrong. I do it much as the lady if picture two of the forward walk shown here does it - I bend my standing knee and advance my vertically aligned body forwards of the knee.

The important difference between what I do and what is clearly shown in picture two is that my moving knee/foot would not yet be in advance of my body. Instead, my body would be projected into empty space - VERTICALLY ALIGNED from teh standing the knee up, but very briefly forward of both feet. Obviously that is not a position that can be held - it is one that you pass through on the way to something else.

"If the knee is bending and the body is verticle the knee has to be ahead of body"

No - if you would open your eyes, you would see that picture two proves otherwise, by showing you how you can have the BODY VERTICALLY ALIGNED OVER THE BENT STANDING KNEE. The standing knee is UNDER the body, not ahead of it. And unlike the mistaken picture, my moving knee would not yet be ahead of my body by more than a trivial amount either.

"When you look at the computer images I don't think you see any of the above mentioned. Some people call the inabilty to see the whole picture. Tunnel Vision."

You words describe you own problem perfectly! I've been describing picture two to you for months now, and you still haven't taken an honest look at it.

"Do you have flexed knees at the end of a Forward or a Backward Walk."

Yes, when I PRACTICE a "walk". But remember that I never dance the exercise called a "walk" when I am actually dancing. Instead, I dance actions which are desceneded form walks, but always different - they are dance actions, not exercises, and each of them differs from the "Walk" in a variety of critical ways. See below for an example:

"Do you believe we should come over that straight leg with no flexing of the knee onto the next step."

Only if leading a follower's heel turn, otherwise the knee should flex as the body comes over the foot. Of course that is for a heel lead action. When coming onto the toe (ball), as on the second step of a feather, the knee will flex fairly little, if at all.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Don
12/25/2006  1:40:00 AM
Anonymous. You can not bend the knee to 45 degrees as on the display and have the body ahead of the knee unless you lean forward. It is not possible.
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/25/2006  7:36:00 AM
"Anonymous. You can not bend the knee to 45 degrees as on the display and have the body ahead of the knee unless you lean forward. It is not possible."

Well, that's an intersting comment. Since the picture clearly shows a vertical body (NO LEANING) over a bent knee, that leaves just two possibilites:

1) Don't theory is wrong

2) Jonathan's picture is wrong.

Since Don was singing the praises of the accuracy of Jonathan's pictures, this would seem to put Don in a bit of a tight spot!
Re: Congratulations
Posted by Anonymous
12/25/2006  7:42:00 AM
Sorry folks, we are arguing over a typo.

It should be body "over" the standing knee, not body "forward" of the standing knee.

This of course puts the entire body well forward of the standing foot. And if the moving foot has not yet swung, forwards of the moving foot too.

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