I think there are two ways one could do as you suggest, that is to be able fall onto the next step. One would be to have a bent front knee. The other would be to have a straight front knee that doesn't bend at all. This is very much how the Foxtrot was danced in the distant past. But today there is compression like there has never been before. This isn't for a beginner or a Social Dancer. In the past you would never have seen that rear knee as it moves forward only about 10 inches from the foor and the front thigh horizontal to the floor.The one I am looking at is in the Waltz and is going into a Reverse movement.In the Reverse Turn they seem to rise forever. There is no way the weight is in front of the front foot. Have you ever seen a weight lifter in a lunge with the weights above the head. I for one would not have the strength in my legs thats why I say it is aquired only through practise and working in the gym. maybe. Anyway now you know what to look for why not go and have a look at your videos in slow motion..

"There is no way the weight is in front of the front foot."

Where in the figure were you looking for it?

Do you even remember at what point in the action I said it would occur? I rather doubt it.

No wonder you can't find it. You don't even know when to look for it.

If i stand one pace from a wall. If i take one pace towards the wall i would not expect my head to strike the wall. I would expect my toe to arrive first this is under any situation without any exception.

Hi Anna
What you've said so far is correct. But keep moving (towards that wall) and your body might hit it before your moving foot has reached the standing foot (you may have to start a little further from the wall)

"What you've said so far is correct. But keep moving (towards that wall) and your body might hit it before your moving foot has reached the standing foot (you may have to start a little further from the wall)"

Exactly.

Late in the stride, the moving foot will often be ahead of the body.

But at the very beginning of the stride, the body is ahead of the moving foot - by a huge amount if coming from a previous step, by only a small amount if lowering from having our feet closed.

The situations where the body would hit the wall before the foot are the situations where the wall is so close that the body will hit it before the moving foot can catch up to the body.

This depends how we look at it maybe. I believe the furthest thing to the front on my upper body if i am a man is my nose.
I beleive the part that will arrive at a wall first after taking one pace forward is my toe.
I believe that my nose will draw level only after my foot has arrived.
I beleive that then the moving foot goes ahead.
I believe that at no time will my nose go ahead of my foot or my knee. It will draw level yes , go past no.
I do NOT believe i will try to put my nose the other side of that imaginary wall while my toe is this side.
In a Rumba Walk in Latin.this does happen. In Standard it does not.
I hope this is clear and easy to understand.
To say otherwise is to say the nose is the other side of that imaginary wall before the foot arrives.
It sounds a bit silly when the two are compaired. I dont think the no's have it.

Quickstep, posing as "Anna", wrote:

This depends how we look at it maybe. I believe the furthest thing to the front on my upper body if i am a man is my nose."

I should certainly hope not! Doing it properly, the most forward part of the body would generally be the lower to middle of the sternum, depending on stylistic preference.

"I beleive the part that will arrive at a wall first after taking one pace forward is my toe."

When the moving foot first becomes the moving foot, it is starting out from a position BEHIND THE BODY. As a result, if the distance to the wall is small, the body will hit the wall before the moving foot can catch up.

The foot would only hit the wall if the distance to the wall was large enough that the foot had time to catch up with the body and pass it before the body reached the wall.

"I beleive that then the moving foot goes ahead."

Eventually - BUT NOT UNTIL IT HAS HAD TIME TO CATCH UP WITH AND PASS THE BODY.

"I believe that at no time will my nose go ahead of my foot"

It starts out ahead.

"or my knee. It will draw level yes , go past no."

Look at the position at midstride, which is to say when the moving foot first becomes the moving foot. Obviously, the body is ahead of the new moving foot there, and in this case you also have one of the rarer situations where it would even initially be ahead of the new moving knee. The later point is not really worthy of much though... you'll never try to put your body ahead of the moving knee, but it is a situation where, as a result of declaring the standing foot to now be the moving foot, it's knee does find itself behind your body.

Absolute garbage. Do as the technique book says and you won't be far wrong.If the book says your body goes ahead of you feet then you go ahead and do it. But if it doesn' t say, then you must be wrong. Its as easy as that.

"Absolute garbage. Do as the technique book says and you won't be far wrong.If the book says your body goes ahead of you feet then you go ahead and do it."

And it does say so.

From a closed position, it says that you should feel the body scommence to move before the foot. Therefore there is at least some time when the BODY IS MOVING BUT THE FOOT IS NOT MOVING. Any logical person would realize that this means the body will initially get slightly ahead of the foot, BEFORE the foot will have a chance to catch up with and pass the body.

From a non-closed position, the body IS ALREADY A HALF STEP LENGTH AHEAD OF WHERE THE MOVING FOOT STARTS at the time when the moving foot becomes the moving foot!

Not if your moving foot passes your standing foot and only then when the heel of the moving foot is level with the toe of standing foot will your heel of that standing foot begin to leave the floor. Try that with your body in front of the feet.
Another little test for you is to dance slowly from foot to foot.Lifting your moving foot from the floor after you arrive.
Something more to think about.When this former Blackpool Champion told you to get your weight in front of the foot. Are you sure you know which foot he was talking about. Were you one of those who pulled their shoulders back and stuck their chest out which put their weight behind the standing foot. Need i say more.