CliveHarrison. Of course there is no rise untill the weight is over the Fifth Step. Who said otherwise. I would suggest you all go to Marcus Hilton Basic Waltz and look at bar thirteen. What exactly do you see if you stop at the end of bar twelve and move through bar thirteen. What exactly would you call that move. Forward onto the right heel . Then rise and step to the side and slightly back from a toe to a toe and lower the LF which is a TH. Haven't you ever seen dancer start their routine with a Hover. I always have started my Quickstep with a Hover diag to wall against the LOD.The reason for this is I want to do a Progressive Chasse to the centre and I want the first step of the Chasse to be on beats 1 2. So I step to the wall with the RF for a slow. Replace on a slow LF and continue in rhythm which all together is 1 2. 3 4. and 1 2. with the RF.

Interesting.. commencing backwards... thats " old " school ( i prefer it for technical reasons ).

Modern trend is to commence forward .
the last competitor I recall using the B/ward method was Gary Mc Donald .

Terence. On a crowded floor in a competition. I need to claim my space . That is why I think it is best to do a Progressive Chasse to the centre after a Hover. Which gives me a Reverse movement, in this case into a Throwaway Oversway. My Quick Open Reverse then is on 1 2. If I were to start with a Spin Turn I will be on the wrong beat. If I started with a Quarter Turn. Again I would be out of rhythm.

Who said otherwise? YOU did!



If it's not what you meant, it WAS what you wrote. I don't need to watch videos to know that there is no rise at all on four, and the rise only comes at the end of five.

CliveHarrison. The main thing here is that step five is a step and not a replacement. After stepping onto it we will rise.The left heel at the end of step four must leave the floor. Next time your out have a look at how many people just replace and not step. Having said that if you look at bar thirteen on step five on the video he doesn't do a heel lead. If you look at Learn the Dances Jonathan does.

Amazing. He gets five steps on one bar of the Waltz? Wouldn't doing so require syncopating every step?



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jofjionesboro. If you were taking a Professional examination and asked to demonstrate a Spin Turn. You would start backing LOD into the Pivot 4 and continue on 5 6. If you were asked to do the Natural Spin Turn you would include what is called the first three of a Natural. If you don't understand which you obviously don't That would be two bars of music or six steps.
Your other comments about eye level. It seems to have disapeared along with the thread. If you wore a dance frame which keeps a dancer in the correct position elbow to elbow. It doesn't matter how much you sway. In relation to your own body it stays the same. You might also look on Learn The Dances.

Which Professional Association has a Spin Turn in its syllabus that isn't a Natural Spin Turn, Polished?

A NST would always be demonstrated from step 1, and would include pointing the toe of RF back after step 6, having shown the lowering of LF e/o 6.

The demonstration would also show the heel of the LF being released as the RF step 5 is taken HT (just like any other forward walk), and the demonstration would show rising e/o 5, and NOT rising from "there" (4) onto step 5 (ie rising e/o 4, up on 5).

Down on 5. Rise e/o 5. No Hover.

thank you, CliveHarrison. I should do it. I need in a control and a partner for a train (I haven't yet ).
I known an each other have the paar but I want dance that's way I'll get take a some partner for a train.

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CliveHarrison. Why do you think that in the Technique Book it says. The Natural Spin Turn...1 2 3 First three steps of the Natural Turn Finish with back to LOD. It does not say the first three steps of the Natural Spin Turn.
You will always find that they make a point of saying the first three of a Natural. After having digested that go to an Impetus. What do you know it says The figure consists of the first half of the Natural Turn. Try not to argue about something you know very little about. I'll bet you think the
5th step for the lady in the Natural Spin Turn is TH suprise suprise there is no lowering there for the lady on that step. The heel never touches the floor. For those who have never done a medal, on the 5th step of the Reverse Turn in the Foxtrot The 5th step for the man is T. For the lady it is TH.
I've put that in because there is bound to be somebody who it will help to understand that the ladies footwork is not always a mirror image of the man's.