Log In

Username:

Password:

   Stay logged in?

Forgot Password?

User Status

 

Attention

 

Recover Password

Username or Email:

Loading...
Change Image
Enter the code in the photo at left:

Before We Continue...

Are you absolutely sure you want
to delete this message?

Premium Membership

Upgrade to
Premium Membership!

Renew Your
Premium Membership

$99
PER YEAR
$79
PER YEAR
$79
PER YEAR

Premium Membership includes the following benefits:

Don't let your Premium Membership expire, or you'll miss out on:

  • Exclusive access to over 1,620 video demonstrations of patterns in the full bronze, silver and gold levels.
  • Access to all previous variations of the week, including full video instruction of man's and lady's parts.
  • Over twice as many videos as basic membership.
  • A completely ad-free experience!

 

Sponsored Ad

+ View Older Messages

Re: Left side leading
Posted by Quickstep
12/27/2006  5:58:00 PM
Anonymous. You've got that alignment all wrong, or rather an understanding of what is exactly required. Your new alignment is after you have completed your turn.
There is no CBM on 2 and 3 Two books say the same.
If I read you correctly you are finished turning only to be diagnal to the wall.
Step three taken is under the body.
So if there is no CBM on step 2 and 3. they are square.Where does that put you.
Also there is 3/8ths of a turn between between 1 and 3. and 3/8ths of a turn between 4 and 7.
Unless I am much mistaken your alignment is ideal if you were entering into a Wave.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/28/2006  6:42:00 AM
"If I read you correctly you are finished turning only to be diagnal to the wall."

In the body, yes diagonal to wall. The foot might turn more - though officially it is also DW.

"Step three taken is under the body.
So if there is no CBM on step 2 and 3. they are square.Where does that put you."

You are confusing CBM (a particular type of rotation) with rotation in general. If you consult your book again, you will see that there is rotation of the feet on all three steps.

"Also there is 3/8ths of a turn between between 1 and 3. and 3/8ths of a turn between 4 and 7."

Yes, but again that is describing the FEET NOT THE BODY, as you would see if you took the time to read the preface to your book.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Quickstep
12/28/2006  6:25:00 PM
Anonymous. You will see rotation of the feet on all three steps. That is what you wrote
When I reach my final position that is my alignment. Just like the captain of a ship. when he says turn so many degrees North West. When the ship reaches that point that is its new course. Is that right or wrong. It has to be right because that is what you have written as above in your paragraph four. To say no will destroy your own argument.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/28/2006  9:44:00 PM
"Anonymous. You will see rotation of the feet on all three steps. That is what you wrote
When I reach my final position that is my alignment. Just like the captain of a ship. when he says turn so many degrees North West. When the ship reaches that point that is its new course. Is that right or wrong. It has to be right because that is what you have written as above in your paragraph four. To say no will destroy your own argument."

Did you have a point or where you just entertaining yourself?
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Quickstep
12/29/2006  2:42:00 AM
Anonymous. That brought you to a full stop. I'm glad you kept it going so I can add the rest.
You are making a very stupid mistake by trying to find your alignment whilst you are moving backwards. Your third step will not be a step backward, which it is supposed to be.Please look at the demonstration on this web- site and copy. And also copy picture two of the stills as you step back on step three
Having come across this problem many time. It is always a misunderstanding of the rise at the end of step one. As you step to the side you must be on two toes which is the way it has always been. Rise at the end of one, up for two and three lower at the end of three.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/29/2006  6:33:00 AM
"You are making a very stupid mistake by trying to find your alignment whilst you are moving backwards. "

On the contrary, I was pointing out two facts of which you still seem ignorant:

1) The official alignment is backing DW, not backing LOD.

2) That is the alignment of the FOOT NOT THE BODY.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/29/2006  9:46:00 PM
Anonymous. Which technique book says that you are backing diag to wall at the competion of step two. I have three books which don't seem to agree with that.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Quickstep
12/29/2006  9:59:00 PM
To the Original Anonymous. Just one question although you should answer the other person's first. Exactly after step two where is your third step going. In which direction
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/30/2006  9:22:00 AM
"Exactly after step two where is your third step going. In which direction"

My third step is moving down LOD.

During this time, my body is backing DW.

My foot will be slowly developing from backing DW to backing LOD.

What you need to realize is that there are at least three seperate paramaters here:

1) direction of movement
2) foot alignment
3) body alignment

If you don't start paying attention to the differences (and the fact that the book only gives you the first two in detail) you will suffer a lot of confusion.

Also, you need to realize that the direction of movement is described not in room directions, but usually in relation to the official foot alignment. You really should translate that to room directions and maintain it, even if you choose to alter the foot alignment. A step that might be sideways with one alignment would be backwards with another - but what is important is that it still goes in the correct direction in the room.
Re: Left side leading
Posted by Anonymous
12/30/2006  9:18:00 AM
"Anonymous. Which technique book says that you are backing diag to wall at the competion of step two. I have three books which don't seem to agree with that."

Really?

Perhaps you would like to quote for us what they do say. For step two of the foxtrot reverse turn. Or even step two of the waltz reverse turn.

I don't believe I have come across a book which uses the word "completion", but then I don't think I have come across one which specifies an alignent other than backing DW either.
Copyright  ©  1997-2026 BallroomDancers.com