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Re: Turning too soon
Posted by anymouse
6/10/2007  6:59:00 AM
"On any second quick in the Foxtrot. dont forget to hit that crotchet right on the black spot."

WRONG. See here:

https://www.ballroomdancers.com/Message_Board/view_messages.asp?MsgID=23818

"Exactly were are you when you go diagnal to the wall for a Natural Turn. Your not one of those who does a Reverse Turn and Three Step and heads straight across everybody coming down behind you. "

If you knew anything about the flow of the dances, you'd know they generally move on diagonals. Extended movement straight down the LOD happens near the center and near the wall, in between the movement is generally diagonal. Look at the classic figures with their 3/8 turns (or in some foxtrot cases, 1/8 change of direction) and this will become clear.

"Heaven forbid.Try that with 20 couples on the floor. You'd get flattened."

Hardly, diagonal movements are the norm, and what those behind you will be expecting if they have any real experience (and those without real experience won't be catching up to real dancers anyway)

"Hasn't it entered your head that why the Three Step has a curve in it"

Check your book: "The three step may also be danced DW. When danced in this direction it may be ended facing DW or curved to L to end LOD"

"Just to correct you again. The first note (a) There is nothing there about heading diagnal to the wall."

Oops, you really stepped in it that time. Open up your book, and you'll see that the first note says:

"Alignment. When the Natural Turn is commenced DW..."

You might also want to look here

https://www.ballroomdancers.com/Dances/breakdown.asp?Dance=FOX&StepNum=193&Part=M

and here

https://www.ballroomdancers.com/Dances/media.asp?Dance=FOX&StepNum=193

Where you will see the common version commenced moving DW with 3/8 turn on the first three steps.
Re: Turning too soon
Posted by quickstep
6/10/2007  8:30:00 PM
Isn't it great that we have the 2006 Foxtrot Final to compare notes and to watch in particular Timothy Howson who unfortunately had to withdraw from this years due to injury.
You have read the book .A Three Step following a Reverse Turn goes into a corner. Not half way down the floor or anywhere inbetween.
On the vodeo you will not see any of them cutting across the LOD. You do know the difference in the technique between a Waltz and our present subject don't you. With Timothy did you see the sway to the left with the right shoulder leading on the Three Step., or did that go unoticed.
Sway is used on any turn or curve. The Feather Step sways to the right with the left shoulder leading
because it is supposed to curve to the right slightly. The Three Step sways to the left with the right shoulder leading and curves to the left slightly. This is how we find the LOD and consiquently a half a turn on the Natural Turn so that we do not chop the field off who are coming down the LOD. This is as said, not at a corner. The corner is on a diagonel as it is written in the book
With sway the sharper the turn ,the more sway there will be. I did ask exactly where in your routine would you would be after a Reverse Turn. You had best not say half way down the floor. Have you ever been on a floor with twenty other couples in a competition. If you had we would not be having this conversation. Once again . This is not a Waltz. And here. its a small room. But did you see a 1/2 turn there among the 3/8ths of a turn.
To go back to the beginning. This is what was written. Years ago in a Bronze Medal we had to start facing down LOD. We comenced on the outside of the ballroom with a Feather Step a Three Step and 1/2 a turn on our Natural Turn. If we needed more distance to reach the corner we would repeat. Having reached the corner we would turn to the new line of dance. Take note . We are not going into the corner from a Reverse Turn and Three Step.
If you as I suspect are one of those who starts with a Feather Reverse and a Three Step. Your only part of the way down the floor and you cut straight across the field diagonel to the wall. Try that in a competition and see where you land. It is necessary to have good Choreography, Even at a corner one has to be carefull. If you work it out. Going into a corner from the middle you are with diagonel to the wall. But you are also going against the LOD on the short side at the same time. Did you realize that one. You can put your note book away. Schools out.

Re: Turning too soon
Posted by Waltz123
6/10/2007  8:36:00 PM
Wow, you have some really screwy ideas there, Quickstep. Well, suit yourself. In the meantime, the rest of us will dance normal Foxtrot.

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Regards,
Jonathan
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