Anonymous. You might have to change your mind on the use of the word rotation. John Wood uses this word as he describes and teaches the man's Feather Step. You say it is only used on a turn. Wrong Wrong Wrong
As you know John qualfies as a teacher of the teachers.

"Anonymous. You might have to change your mind on the use of the word rotation. John Wood uses this word as he describes and teaches the man's Feather Step. You say it is only used on a turn. Wrong Wrong Wrong
As you know John qualfies as a teacher of the teachers."

"Rotation" does not have an official dance meaning, unlike some other words.

What I am insisting on is that full attention be payed to the difference between figures in which there is a change in the direction of movement, and figures in which there is none.

In a figure without a change in the direciton of movement, you MUST NOT ACTUALLY PASS YOUR PARTNER, even if you rotate and stretch part of your body past her.

Anonymous. So you think you are a greater authority on ballroom dancing than a former British and World Professional Champion who says. On a Feather step with the man moving to the outside with rotation. The lady follows the man's centre to his right side. Read this carefully. Follows the man's centre to his right side as he passes.
How would you explain a Feather Step for the man.

"Anonymous. So you think you are a greater authority on ballroom dancing than a former British and World Professional Champion who says. On a Feather step with the man moving to the outside with rotation. The lady follows the man's centre to his right side. Read this carefully. Follows the man's centre to his right side as he passes.
How would you explain a Feather Step for the man."

Once you've been in the habit of studying with world class teahers, you will discover that they are only human, and are known to mis-speak from time to time.

The reality is that the partner must not pass each other, and DO NOT PASS EACH OTHER, in non-turning figures. If someone makes poor word choices while explaining that is unfortunate... about the best you can do is take lessons with them, so that you get the benefit not only of their stock explanation, but of their PERSONALIZED CORRECTIONS when applying what you thought their stock "video tape" explanation meant' doesn't product the kind of dance action they wanted...

It's one thing to think you understand a teacher. But after they've seen you dance, you'll know if you understood them or not...

Anonymous. Do you really believe a world class celebrity would use a word that is not being used in the trade. What about the producers of the tape. considering the tape is to be sold all over the world is it possible they would use words or instructions that weren't a 100 percent correct. It wouldn't be you that is wrong would it.
You just don't understand. If we stood square to the centre and I rotate to diagnal to the centre. The lady does not change her shape she is still on my right hip. Is the lady moving to my right side still in ballroom position or not. If you had the tape you would know that in both solo and with his partner he says the man passes the lady. As far as I know the only people who have difficulty with this are rather plump. Are you or your partner or both plump. Is that why your a bit light on CBM or CBMP.. Also and turning the side keeping your shoulder over your hip. There has to be a reason.

"Anonymous. Do you really believe a world class celebrity would use a word that is not being used in the trade. What about the producers of the tape. considering the tape is to be sold all over the world is it possible they would use words or instructions that weren't a 100 percent correct."

I know that world class teachers make mistakes and mis-use dance terminology because I've had them do it in my lessons. And seen them do it on tapes. But I don't consider the fact that someone makes mistakes or mis-speaks to mean that they are wrong. It simply means that they are human.

"If we stood square to the centre and I rotate to diagnal to the centre. The lady does not change her shape she is still on my right hip."

Well there's your problem. Outside partner/CBMP requires a shape change - it has its own specific stretches.

Anonymous.Your teacher might use a word incorrectly . But not on a tape that goes world wide and has been around for a few years. Do you correct your teachers when they use a word incorrectly.I would. I would politely say. I don't quite get that. Can you explain that once again. It is unlikely though that a teacher who has taught thousands of people would use an incorrect word when discribing something in dancing.
Can you put into writting. You can do like I do and freeze frame my favourite dancer. Put into writting exactly where you are when you step outside your partner in CBMP. I'll start you off.
Just you in a solo position.
The right foot is level with the left shoulder. It can be a toe or a heel.

"Your teacher might use a word incorrectly . But not on a tape that goes world wide and has been around for a few years."

Yes, even on such a tape.

"Do you correct your teachers when they use a word incorrectly.I would. I would politely say. I don't quite get that. Can you explain that once again. It is unlikely though that a teacher who has taught thousands of people would use an incorrect word when discribing something in dancing."

What was said was absolutely incorrect in terms of orthadox technique and terminology, but it did not cloud the meaning at all. If anything, it illustrated some of how that teacher thinks about things. The things that were mispoken were not considered distinctions of importance - some concepts had been confused, but the lesson was about the commonalities between them.

"Put into writting exactly where you are when you step outside your partner in CBMP."

Already done many times, as I'm sure you will recognize.

We are still in front of each other with offset as normal, but our right hips are creased back somewhat (more so on a lowered action than on a risen action such as a feather) and our left sides are strongly forward. If it's a step one or step three action, it is also likely that the right shoulder will be forward of the right hip.

"The right foot is level with the left shoulder. It can be a toe or a heel."

At one particular point in the action, sure. But there's a lot more to the story than that. One of my coaches puts what you are describing as taking the right knee to the left shoulder. And by the way, teaches that this should be done for natural CBM, as well as promenade and outside partner CBMP.

Anonymous. What I was after was a simple.
The left shoulder is in place
' The right foot is level with the left shoulder.
The weight is over the left foot.
The right shoulder is over the right hip.
Is that what you see.

"Anonymous. What I was after was a simple.
The left shoulder is in place
' The right foot is level with the left shoulder.
The weight is over the left foot.
The right shoulder is over the right hip.
Is that what you see."

And you get a simple answer:

"NO"