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Re: Whisk
Posted by Iluv2Dance
8/8/2008  2:15:00 AM
Polished,
Write the definition of 'Alignment'. Nothing else, please.
Re: Whisk
Posted by Polished
8/8/2008  3:14:00 PM
lluv2Dance.Here it is full stops and all.
Whisk. The Man.
L.F. forward diag.to wall
R.F. to the side and slightly forward turning lady to P. P.
Cross L.F. behind and a few inches to the right of right foot, now in Promenade facing diag. to wall.

Contary Body.Movement. Slight C.B.M. on 1.
Rise and Fall. Commence to rise at the end of one; continue to rise on 2; up on 3. Lower at the end of 3.
Body Sway. Sway to the Left on 2, 3.
Amount of Turn. There is no turn for the man.
Footwork. 1. H. T. 2. T. 3. T. H.

This I can assure you is exactly how
Andrew Sinkinson demonstrated the Whisk in the Waltz . We about 40 of us had to follow his alignment.
The simplest way to understand is we or on a square tile
The corner our left foot is on, on the first step is to our left. Call that corner A.
The right hand corner we do not use at all. That is B.
The bottom corner is C. Thats where the RF goes and the LF crosses behind.
We are now facing corner D. Which we step along for the Chasse.
There is no turn for the man because he is already where he is supposed to be without any turn feet or otherewise.

So you asked for alignment Nothing else please.
1. Facing Diag to wall.
2. Still facing diag to wall
3. Cross behind still facing diag to
wall.
4. Step down LOD in Promenade
still facing diag to wall
5. Close feet still facing diag to wall
If you look at the chart there has been no alteration to the line of the feet from the beginning of step 1. to the end of step 6. And being that there is no turn for the man at all. What is your diagnoses.
The lady has a different story.
Is that what you wanted. Its a bit different to what is usually wrongly taught in a Social Class isn't it.
Re: Whisk
Posted by anymouse
8/8/2008  3:41:00 PM
"So you asked for alignment Nothing else please.
1. Facing Diag to wall.
2. Still facing diag to wall
3. Cross behind still facing diag to
wall.
4. Step down LOD in Promenade"

As usually, you decide to answer a different question than what was asked.

You were asked to DEFINE the term alignment, not give the alignments of a figure, but DEFINE what the term means.

Do you even know what it does and does not mean? The amount of irrelevant mumbo-jumbo in your comments would suggest that you either do not know what BODY PART the definition of alignment is restricted to, or have carelessly neglected to take that restriction into account when stating your arguments!
Re: Whisk
Posted by Polished
8/8/2008  4:11:00 PM
Anonymous. That irrelevant mumbo jumbo came straight from the book. Anybody who doesn't know what is meant by alignment hasn't been taught correctly. All of the figures ever taught have a correct alignment. LOD with or against. Diag to wall also with or against. Facing centre or backing wall.For thoughs who are not sure, and it can be confusing is that if the man is facing diag to wall. The lady is backing. It could be said that at the same time she is facing diag. to centre against the LOD which she is. But we ignore that and take the man's alignment. I always think of alignment as a verb and not a noun.What do you think.
I don't understand your last paragraph which is saying " either do not know what BODY PART" .It is shown in the mumbo jumbo book that both the body and the feet are on the same alignment in the Whisk. Is that correct or not.
Re: Whisk
Posted by anymouse
8/8/2008  5:49:00 PM
"Anybody who doesn't know what is meant by alignment hasn't been taught correctly."

This would apparently include yourself, as you've still failed to produce a definition, for it.

"both the body and the feet are on the same alignment in the Whisk. Is that correct or not."

No, it is not correct.

Promenade, as anyone with any actual experience of dancing knows, requires that both partners have an angle between their feet and their topline. Classically this would be 45 degrees, but on some such as Jonathan, it can be nearly 90 degrees - feet pointing down LOD, body facing wall.

The whisk may tend to be a bit sloppy compared to other promenade entries, but it still requires a notable angle between feet and shoulders in both partners.
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