Just paragraph three. At the same time that the lady is to the tip of her toe with her rear foot so is the man. The step on the introduction is no different in style to the very next step which is the first of the Feather Step. If there is a difference it is because the lady in her set up is, the word commonly used is, Offset. Which means out of line. We are very rarely dead square with each other if ever. I have checked the same backward step for both the man and the lady in the Foxtrot , Waltz and the V. Waltz. There is no appreciable difference, in fact if paused and played frame by frame in both the Waltz or Foxtrot on that particular step you wouldn't know which was which.
The pin pong ball No matter hard it tries it will not get ahead of its first bounce . Surely our feet are our table in this illistration.
And to finish like the ping pong ball I cannot see on any frame where the person going forward their weight is in front of their foot. And most definitely not the lady. So I would suggest that like myself. Do not comment unless you have checked. Try on this site,

"Just paragraph three. At the same time that the lady is to the tip of her toe with her rear foot so is the man."

ABSOLUTELY WRONG!

The lady's maximum extension to her toe will actually be quite early in her stride, when her extension is mostly from below the knee and her foot is more or less perpendicular to the floor. This will mean it is the end, or even top of her toe that contact the floor.
As she extends more into her step, her point of contact will move down onto the ball of the moving foot.

As she's doing this, the man's foot is fairly flat, with the ball of the foot closest to or one the floor. At the extreme of his stride, his toe will come up exposing the heel. Nowhere in the step is his toe in contact with the floor.

"The step on the introduction is no different in style to the very next step which is the first of the Feather Step."

Gross ignorance. I'd expect better from the newest beginner! Remember, there is RISE and UPWSING, even for the lady - she has no foot rise, but that means no rise in the feet, it does not mean no rise or swing - she must definitely HAVE BOTH. Only an idiot could try to claim that there is no difference between the prep step and step one... really, get a CLUE.

"There is no appreciable difference, in fact if paused and played frame by frame in both the Waltz or Foxtrot on that particular step you wouldn't know which was which."

WRONG. Loook at the articulation of the feet. Look at the straightness of the legs. Look at the angle of the body. Look at the size of the step. There are numerous clues as to the class of action being performed. Now, maybe you can't tell a telemark in waltz from one in foxtrot, but you should definintely be able to tell in a picture midway through step one if the figure is going to be a heel turn, a waltz closure turn, an open turn, etc. If not, either the dancers are bad or you have not yet learned to pay attention to the critical nuances that make these all so different.

"And to finish like the ping pong ball I cannot see on any frame where the person going forward their weight is in front of their foot."

Well you just have to learn to look more carefully then. Try the beginning of step three for Jonathan's feather step video, or almost anybody preparing to step out in promenade from an open telemark.

Look again. The mans rear foot goes right to the toe from the ball of the foot. The ladies toe is first a ball and then right to the tip of the toe at the extent of the stride. This would be beyond most of us and is probably acquired through an indeterminate amount of training. But we can but try. Who said anything about telemarks. I thought you wanted a specific step.I have given you two. You can add the first of the Heel Turn to the list. You don't expect the third step of the Reverse for the man to have the same stride as the following forth step step, but it is still a very pointed toe and lower coming from a toe on the right foot.
Why not look at the introduction and the first and second of the Feather or the first into the Reverse. Then tell me the man' s body is in front of his foot. You chose a bad example with an open Telemark as we all know there is sway on two that brings the weight to the side don't you agree

"The mans rear foot goes right to the toe from the ball of the foot."

The rear foot does, but by the time it has done so, the lady's ball of moving foot is in contact with the floor again.

"The ladies toe is first a ball and then right to the tip of the toe at the extent of the stride."

That's where you are WRONG. It is at the tip of the toe fairly early in the stride, later in the stride the contact moves down to the ball of foot. LEARN TO LOOK WITH MORE CARE.

"Why not look at the introduction and the first and second of the Feather or the first into the Reverse. Then tell me the man' s body is in front of his foot. "

It should be, though it is not on Jonathan's video. However, on his video you CAN SEE that the body is ahead of both feet at the start of step three. What can I say, nobody is perfect.

You are unblievable. As your rear foot moves to the rear it starts as a ball and continues as such . Swing the left foot back from the hip , first with the ball of the foot then the toe skimming the floor. This is the bit that is missing by you. At the full extent of the stride lower to the ball of the foot . Reminder. The rest of the foot will not lower onto the floor untill the moving foot is under the body.
What is happening to the man's rear foot as he moves forward. It comes from a ball to the toe, which is the last thing to move keeping in contact with the floor.This is after the drive forward where the toe would be passed by the heel . Do not lift.
At some point you will see the toe of the mans foot and the toe of the ladies foot creating a beautiful picture if you happend to take a photo at that time, or freeze frame it. Don't lets hear anymore of your nonesense.Its all in the book.

"You are unblievable."

Sorry to say, but the truth is a rude shock to you.

"As your rear foot moves to the rear it starts as a ball and continues as such."

You are misleading yourself with an oversimplification: it starts on a heel, goes to the ball, then as it extendens from below the knee the contact point moves up to the very end of the toe. But as the extension continues and the leg division expands to include the thighs, the contact point starts moving back down the foot. By the extreme of stride, it is THE BALL OF FOOT, NOT THE TIP OF THE TOE, which is dominating the floor contact.

"What is happening to the man's rear foot as he moves forward. It comes from a ball to the toe, which is the last thing to move keeping in contact with the floor."

By the time the man's ball of foot has gotten off the floor to leave only the toe, the lady's ball of foot will be on the floor.

"At some point you will see the toe of the mans foot and the toe of the ladies foot creating a beautiful picture if you happend to take a photo at that time, or freeze frame it."

Beautiful, yes, but you won't see them both on their toe. Instead, you will see one of the ball and the other on the toe, and then the opposite.

"Don't lets hear anymore of your nonesense.Its all in the book."

You need to read that book a bit more carefully!

Just one point at a time. What makes you think that the heel is in the equation at this time. There is no heel only the ball. This is the beginning of the step when the supporting foot has lowered to the floor.
Beautiful picture. You are not looking at the couple I am looking at.
To me a ball is that part of the foot behind the toes, And to be on the toes means that that part of the foot is off the floor. Therefore we can use the ball which will become a toe and then back to a ball again right at the end of the stride. Thats going backwards

"Just one point at a time. What makes you think that the heel is in the equation at this time. There is no heel only the ball. This is the beginning of the step when the supporting foot has lowered to the floor."

The heel is in the picture during the latter part of the previous step. As I'm sure you know, where the book talks about the backwards movement of the free leg it is talking about a passing walking action, and it begins by describing the moving foot's arrival under the body - it does this to point out that it is actually one single movement of the foot, from in front of the body to behind.

"Beautiful picture. You are not looking at the couple I am looking at."

Maybe not, but if you couple you are looking at are both on their toes, then they are DANCING BADLY. Skilled, coordinated dancers would have one partner already on the ball of foot by the time the other reaches the toe.

The fact remains, no matter how much you wish to sophmorically deny it, that the role for the extreme of the toe is fairly early in the backwards extension - later on, at the extreme, the ball of foot will once again be in contact.

"To me a ball is that part of the foot behind the toes"

Yes, specially from the knuckles back.

"And to be on the toes means that that part of the foot is off the floor."

BUT IT IS NOT OFF THE FLOOR AT THE EXTENT OF THE STRIDE - the toe knuckles are back on the floor there.

"Therefore we can use the ball which will become a toe and then back to a ball again right at the end of the stride. Thats going backwards"

It's back to the ball by the time maximum seperation of the feet is achieved. In other words, the backwards partner has the ball of foot touching again BEFORE such time as the forwards partner's ball of foot leaves the floor.

Your paragraph two. I m quoting the book page 13
Paragraph 5. in relation to the ball of the foot and the toe. It becomes a toe much later. Your not bending that front knee again are you.
Be honest how many including yourself knew that after the extreme part of the toe was on the floor it then becomes a ball again. If the step was written as it is done it would be down as B. T. B. As I said . If the knee is bent to 45 degrees the toe will be on the floor for a few inches only.. On the mans step which is forward takes his rear foot to the last part of the toe. It can't be any other way unless it is lifted from the floor. And we all know thats not correct. Or do we.
Your forth paragraph 5 1 07 At the extreme of the stride the ball is in contact with the floor. Its the toe at the extreme part of the stride. Bend that supporting knee. I take it that extreme means the very last part of the step before the body starts to move.

"Your not bending that front knee again are you."

I think we are going to have to engrave that on your headstone... you obviously love to hear yourself say that, even when it bears not a shred of relation to the situation - as you would well know if you could actually read.

"Be honest how many including yourself knew that after the extreme part of the toe was on the floor it then becomes a ball again. If the step was written as it is done it would be down as B. T. B."

It does as you'd know if you would only study pictures with a bit of care, but it is not written that way. If you'd bothered to read the book with more care, you would have seen the note where it mentions that it does not make distinction in the footwork codes between ball & toe, though pointing out that there is a unique role for each.

"On the mans step which is forward takes his rear foot to the last part of the toe."

Yes, but by the time he gets to his toe, the lady's ball of foot is going to be on the floor again. She has it off the floor (toe touching only) only during the earlier part of the step, while her knee is still bent. As her knee straightends towards midstride, her ball of foot will recontact the floor, BEFORE the man's ball of foot breaks contact.

"Your forth paragraph 5 1 07 At the extreme of the stride the ball is in contact with the floor. Its the toe at the extreme part of the stride."

WRONG. It is the toe early in the stride while the knee is bent. At the extent of the stride is is already the ball of foot again. Try getting your knee actually straight (as you keep trumpeting the importance of) and you'll see why this needs to happen.

"Bend that supporting knee. I take it that extreme means the very last part of the step before the body starts to move."

You had better not be bending your supporting knee at midstride! While your knee is bent (moving backwards) your moving foot contact may be the end of the toe only, but as your knees straighten it will be ball of foot again!