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Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Anonymous
2/6/2007  8:00:00 AM
"If you can tell me of any tape or teacher of dancing who teaches what you are writting then I will stand corrected.."

Pretty much every teacher that I've taken more than one lesson with.

Which should be rathter obvious if you'd open your eyes and see that this is what every skilled dancer does.

Nobody places both quicks on the beat in SQQ-style figure.

You have the numbers, you can keep your head in the sand if you choose.
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Mike
2/6/2007  9:26:00 AM
You are correct. The foot arrives first with body right behind.
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Mike
2/6/2007  10:14:00 AM
Hey quickstep. GOod points. You mentioned Mirko steps on the one in the prep step. Is he really stepping on "and One", stealing a little timing from the end of the 3 in the waltz and eight in the quickstep? Just an observation, but I believe he counts it as "and one" in each prep, as if he's stepping on one but is really moving out at the end of three. I've watched his Standard demo a million times and I'm still amazed at how he moves with respect to the beat!
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by quickstep
2/7/2007  7:27:00 PM
Mike. You might read the new posting to Jonathan.
Miko. and the rest do there tranferance of weight as usuall onto the RF 1 2. Then the LF 3 4. Hold it there and step LF for a quick. It is easily counted if you look at it as it is, and do not have any preconceived ideas. Only what is going on. It does help if a person is able to count the eight beats with the music. If a person has difficulty counting just watch for that step on the RF. If it is a quick the step before would have been a quick as well as the two steps following. That goes without saying once you determined how long the dancer stays on that RF. Count one. Best of Luck
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Anonymous
2/7/2007  7:32:00 PM
"Miko. and the rest do there tranferance of weight as usuall onto the RF 1 2. Then the LF 3 4. Hold it there and step LF for a quick. It is easily counted if you look at it as it is, and do not have any preconceived ideas. Only what is going on. It does help if a person is able to count the eight beats with the music. If a person has difficulty counting just watch for that step on the RF. If it is a quick the step before would have been a quick as well as the two steps following. That goes without saying once you determined how long the dancer stays on that RF. Count one. Best of Luck"

Quickstep, whoever you are, get one thing through your thick head.

THE FEATHER STEPS GETS FOUR FULL BEATS.

They just are not algined with the four beats of the measure. If you carry the prep step over into the first meausare as most do, it is simply being danced as a drifted quick. And they will then carry the 3rd step of the feather an equal distance into the next measure.

The only time you would start with a drifted quick and possibly try to make up the time to end with the measure would be if you were going into a syncopated action.
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by quickstep
2/7/2007  7:48:00 PM
Do you mean you are not capable of stepping LF one beat. RF one beat. LF one beat. RF one beat. If you can't something is wrong with you. All of our top dancers can and do.Mirko can do it can't he. Wake up and look.
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Anonymous
2/7/2007  7:58:00 PM
"Do you mean you are not capable of stepping LF one beat. RF one beat. LF one beat. RF one beat. If you can't something is wrong with you. All of our top dancers can and do.Mirko can do it can't he. Wake up and look."

Sure, and I might do that on an extended WEAVE where it could work well.

But please shoot me in the head if you ever see me do something so outrageously ignorant on a FEATHER or other classic SQQ foxtrot figure.

Look at the numbers again:

Sinkinson, Blackpool 1998:

Duration of foot movements:

Feather: 21, 19, 30
Reverse: 20, 17, 30
F. Finish: 21, 17, 31

Seeing the pattern yet?

Each SQQ gets a full measure. If he starts the feather "late" (he does) then he starts the reverse and equal amount "late" because each figure gets a full four beats worth of time.

**Every interval is longer than a beat. The shortest (between the slow and the first quick) only slightly so, but the interval between the quicks is teh BETTER PART OF TWO BEATS.

Kindly explain how Mr. Sinkinson squeezes the better part of TWO BEATS OF TIME into ONE BEAT?




Re: Third Beat.
Posted by quickstep
2/7/2007  8:04:00 PM
Four beats four steps. Its not even a slight squeeze.
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by Anonymous
2/7/2007  8:05:00 PM
"Four beats four steps. Its not even a slight squeeze."

It sure is when one of them is measured at 1.5 beats (on Gozzoli) or 1.74 beats (on Sinkinson).

KINDLY EXPLAIN HOW MR SINKINSON FITS 1.74 BEATS OF TIME INTO ONE BEATS OF MUSIC
Re: Third Beat.
Posted by quickstep
2/7/2007  8:47:00 PM
I will ask next week. Andrew is at the present, and has been for several years there main teacher. They wont be back in this country till Sunday.

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