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Okay, I'm lost....
Posted by green_apple
6/7/2001  1:59:00 AM
I'm so stupid, I'm so slow...I can't get this waltzing right! Oh lordy...what am I to do?! When I watch the other girls dance, it looks like the left foot steps forward during the turn or something. Argh, I don't know!

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I love to sing/I sound like a chicken
I love to dance/I'm a clutz
I'm smart/I'm failing math
I have glasses/ I wear contacts

Dirty Dancing, Center Stage, Save The Last Dance...gotta love those movies!

I love the samba and cha-cha

Kill the waltzing! ;-p

re: I can't waltz - help!
Posted by curl
5/27/2001  11:53:00 AM
Do you need a idea for vienne walt or english(slow) walt ?

dont forget to have fun swaying around and around.

for vienne walt I can give you this hint:( in Germay only right & left turn & fleckerl are common...

basic right turn forwad part:

Important, stand front diagonaly to Line Of Dance to center (LOD), now

(1) do a forward !!!step (right feet)(heel) in direction LOD , right side leading

between (1) and (2) change leading side from R to L

(2) do a forward (not side, belive me)step left feet (ball flat) , with left side leading.

(3) while closing your legs turn 1/4 so you end with your back diagonally to LOD.Transfer weight to right feet (ball, not flat, but not high,too) End always underturned !!! If you end with the back to LOD ist bad !!!.

Step 1 & 2 are large steps, have fun at this steps..


Backward part:

you stand back diagonally to LOD (center) now:

(4) backward step with left feet (ball flat) left side leading,

between 4 & 5 change leading side L to R, very strong,

(5) small !!!!!! and delayed !!!!! (you dance inside the circle so be friendly to your partner and let him sway the long way ) side step (right feet (ball flat)) exactly on LOD.

(6) close left feet to right ... no rise... delayed (you have time).. you are inside !!! , turn 1/8 so you end diagonally to LOD (center) transfer weight to left and start over with (1). Never end with front at LOD !!! thats too much !!! and damage the next forward part.


As lady you start with Step (4) backward part!!!


Step (4)(backward) is as large as step (1)(forward) but step (5) is a small step .... your partner have the long way to go so please be friendly and count correctly... its suck if the partner is too fast in backward part.

dont think at turning...that makes walt small!!! think you wanna move along through the LOD, the turn happens from itself ... in forward part do 2 ! forward steps and turn at the end... looks better and makes more way. think at the leading sides !!!


in backward part NEVER !!! turn at step (4) !!!! step 4 is exactly backward to allow your partner to get the sway for step 2 .. remember to go with an "open" side backward... left feet backward left side is leading. the turn is easily done during step 5 to side.. if you close your left side because of turning right your partner is blocked and cant sway!!

never overturn !! start and end exact diagonally never with front/back to LOD.

now waltz makes fun

Hmmm...(response to the reply by curl)
Posted by green_apple
5/26/2001  4:08:00 PM
Are you sure its like that? It still doesnt seem right! *Sigh* All I remember is it starts on the right foot, there's a turn with some movement of the left foot...its fast and you sort of "skip" when you do it.

-Robyn

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I love to sing/I sound like a chicken
I love to dance/I'm a clutz
I'm smart/I'm failing math
I have glasses/ I wear contacts

Dirty Dancing, Center Stage, Save The Last Dance...gotta love those movies!

I love the samba and cha-cha

Kill the waltzing! ;-p

Hang in there.
Posted by Stuart
5/28/2001  8:16:00 PM
I've been dancing for over four years now, and I can honestly say that I'm still not really happy with my rotary chasse. That's not to say that it's bad, but rather that I've moved on to more advanced problems than you. (FYI: I'm competing, at D grade level in all three [Modern, New Vogue, Latin American] styles.)


It takes time (a lot of it) and practice (also a lot of it) to get the rotary chasse happening nicely. That said, I'll try to explain what I believe the girl should be doing. (I'm a guy, but anyway.)


You start off facing your partner. He moves off on his left foot, you move off on your right. Step to the side, at an angle.. so if your feet start pointed directly at him (towards center), you'll end up with your feet pointed down line of dance. Bring your other (left) foot in to close, also pointing down line of dance.


After this, you step forward on your right foot, whilst the guy steps back on his left. As you come through, your body turns so that you're facing 180 degrees from when you started... and then you start the process as if you were a guy. Step to the side on the left foot, close on the right, step back on the left (again, turning as you go so you're facing back line of dance at the close).


After you've done two complete turns (four sets of "side together forward/back"), one of two things can happen. In the case of, say, Gypsy Tap, where you're in closed hold, you stay in closed hold and move off for the start of the dance. In the case of, say, Merrilyn or Charmaine, though, you need to bring your right foot in to your left, turning clockwise to face down line of dance, ready to move off. (Your arm should be raised pretty much straight up as you turn, to avoid knocking your partner out.)


This is how it's supposed to be done, not necessarily how you'll do it at first. Most of what has already been posted is a good starting point, and will get your body (even if not your feet) moving in the right general direction. Dancing is not something that you can do immediately, so what usually happens is we start by learning something that's wrong, but getting us ready to learn something that's less wrong. And so on, and so on, approaching the correct way of doing things over time.


Which class are you going to? You may be learning from somebody who is explaining it poorly, or who is explaining it well for most of the class, but not you in particular. Alternatively, you may just need to dance with somebody who's more experienced to get a feel for it. There's plenty of dances out there; for example, I go to a social dance in Cheltenham on Thursday nights (the Ritz); there's one in Ferntree Gully (also on Thursdays -- Mar Shere); East Bentleigh (Ritz - Saturday); Bentleigh (Star - Friday); Mitcham (Diamond, don't know what night); ... Try going around to several; if nothing else, the extra practice will help you get used to the steps.


Finally: don't dread the "waltzy" dances. Do as many as you can, and try to get at least the side together side going. Practice is the key.


Hope this helps,


Stuart.

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