Congratultions. To Jonathan for the excellent moving computer images If anybody wishes to see a Forward Walk and a Backward Walk, and how it should be done.Then go to the Learning Centre.
Well Done!!.

Looking at the moving computer images on a Forward and Backward Walk the more impressed I become. It is possible to see on a Forward Walk how the back foot goes right to the toe, and the apearance of actually floating onto the next step with the thrust forward. Anybody who wishes to see how the step should be done , go no further. look for the same type of action on a Backward Walk. Congratulations again to Johnathon and the very attractive computer image. I like the hair cut.

Don, I wouldn't exactly trust those as the final word given that their creator has commented that they have problems and he would like to re-do them, if he still had a working install of the software they were created in.

Anonymous.You have not looked at the new moving images of a Forward or Backward Walk yet. Untill you have I would suggest that you digest and come back. Remember to look at the rear toe. Do you remember that little discussion a while back when I pointed out the toes on the Forward and the Backward movement go to their maximum.What did you have to say about that among other things. Which included, find yourself a teacher. Well, who was right and who was wrong.

"Anonymous.You have not looked at the new moving images of a Forward or Backward Walk yet."

All I see are the same quicktime movies, copyright 1998, with the same mistakes they've always had.

"Do you remember that little discussion a while back when I pointed out the toes on the Forward and the Backward movement go to their maximum.What did you have to say about that among other things."

I said only if the movement was large enough to make that natural. You can't go tossing in random details that conflict with the size of the movement you are actually taking, without looking like some kind of charicature of the do-goody student who hasn't got a clue about proportion.

"Well, who was right and who was wrong."

I was and still am. If you think an that little old video is an authority, well, that's funny.

Anonymous. I would say to anyone reading this to go and have a look for yourselves. try to copy as much as you can. Remembering this is a Forward Step. It could be the first step of a Feather Step. Or the first Step of a Natural Turn in the Waltz. The action is the same. It doesn't alter. If its Waltz you turn at the end of and not into. If its Foxtrot you sway on the second and third step. some coaches like to call this swing. Instruction is needed here. Over do the Sway and you will finish leaning into your partners space. Going to other parts of the Learning Section you will see all you need to see. That's why it was put there.

"Anonymous. I would say to anyone reading this to go and have a look for yourselves. try to copy as much as you can."

By all means study it. Especially one still at at time. Do that long enough, and you will conclude as others, including their creator have, that they are not quite right. But it's a great place to start gaining familiarity with the issues!

"Remembering this is a Forward Step. It could be the first step of a Feather Step."

No, rise and CBM would be required. The details of the action would be quite different.

"Or the first Step of a Natural Turn in the Waltz."

No, rise and CBM would be required. The details of the action would be quite different.

"The action is the same. It doesn't alter."

Proof of your beginner status!

"If its Waltz you turn at the end of and not into."

You do both - your body is not a single monolith, different parts of it turn at different points. And there is still the upswing, with its related change in the foot timing.

Anonymous. Sometimes you have a very devous way of writing which I don't think is an accident.
Anybody reading your comments would come to the conclusion that I said there was footrise, which I did not. For your benifit In the Waltz we commence to rise at the end of one. In the Foxtrot we rise at the end of one. Do you remember when I pointed out that there is also no lowering on one except the natural loss of height with the step. Anybody not familiar with this. We have lowered at the end of three, on an (and) count if this is a Waltz. No further lowering is required.
Devious again. The creator of those computer clips did not say they were wrong. The way I remember it was ,you questioned one position out of many. He said that a better one, which to me meant that if he went forward or even backward you would have nothing to complain about. You might also remember that an actuall frame by frame of a real couple was put on for your benifit.And of course you said that was wrong. It's all there to read among a multitude of other stupid criticisms.
My favourite is still on a Back Lock that the shoulders does not go back with the hip.
You changed your mind about that one didn't you. For somebody who has only danced for a reletively short time. You have a hide Sir.
I'm glad you mentioned CBM.
As you are aware there is CBM whether it is a Waltz or a Foxtrot on that first step. Now have you changed your tune. You told every body that the left side leads with no CBM. Did you or did you not say exactly that on a LF lead into a Reverse Turn.
I say once again that on one step forward as in the clips. Whether it be a Waltz or a Foxtrot is the same including the neutral position at the end of the step where if it was Waltz the turn would take place.All blended in of course. Also with the correct use of CBM on the preceding step.

Don,

you get caught trusting the authority of a video clip that has been disclaimed as needing correction by it's own author, and your response is to dig up every other time that YOU HAVE BEEN WRONG in the past?

You really don't learn, do you?

Anonymous. With my many years of experience. The mental images of how a dance should be performed plus the changes that differ from the way it was originaly taught, are all stored away. The changes that have occured aren't that many. One very noticable one is right at the beginning A Closed Change is no longer as it is in the technique book. although many would still teach that way.Like a car ,the model has been superceded. You were strangely very quiet on your last posting. You comletely ignored the questions. I might have to ask them again.