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ECS to Jive
Posted by domanhcuong
12/17/2001  12:41:00 AM
Dear all

I have seen some figure in EC Swing and especially in the current variation. They have their name in ECS. But do they have a coresponding name in Jive? Could you give me the name of following figure (ECS) in Jive
1. Throwout
2. Overturned Side Pass
3. Underarm Turn to Left with Man's Hand Change Behind the Back

Thank you

re: ECS to Jive
Posted by Administrator
12/17/2001  2:34:00 AM
1. Throwout = Fallaway Throwaway

2. Overturned Side Pass
No corresponding figure. A Side Pass is similar to a fallaway throwaway, if taken from open position with a RH-RH hold. The overturned version is a setup for the Chicken Walks.

3. Underarm Turn to Left = Change of Places Left to Right. Hand Change Behind Back is the same figure in Int'l. However, this version is slightly different because the hand change takes place over steps 4-6 instead of 1-6, so it's much faster.

Sicerely,
Jonathan

re: ECS to Jive
Posted by Jonathan Atkinson
12/18/2001  2:26:00 PM
The only difference between the EC Swing basic and the Jive basic (Fallaway Rock) is where you consider the beginning to be. Both figures are essentially two chasses and a back rock. If you dance them in an endless cycle, it doesn't really matter where one begins and the next one ends, so therefore they're basically exactly the same step.

And so the same applies to the Throwout/Fallaway Throwaway. There may be no rock step at the beginning of the Throwout as it is written in a technical description. But it is there, as the end of the last figure you danced (presumably a Basic Step, or a Link to CP). The combinations are excatly identical in both styles; The only difference is the point at which you would describe the beginning and end of the figures in each style.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Atkinson
www.ballroomdancers.com

re: ECS to Jive
Posted by Jonathan Atkinson
1/1/2002  4:35:00 PM
I know the figure you're talking about. Unfortunately, I don't know it by name. Whenever I don't know something by name, I just pick a name which is adequately descriptive. I'd probably just call this one PP to CPP changes, or something similar.

To Blair: The Whip is a rotational figure. This one is a simple switch back and forth from PP to CPP. The best comparison I can think of to something that might be familiar to you would be American style Rumba 5th Position Breaks (the arm-to-arm version). Of course, 5th position breaks would not be a good name for an Int'l dancer, since they don't have a comparable step with the same name in Int'l Rumba.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Atkinson

Fallaway Throwaway
Posted by Curvedfeather
12/18/2001  11:09:00 AM
Admin: there must be a difference. I think it's in the name. My opinion is that in the Fallaway throwaway there is a rock back/recover i.e. fallaway and two tripples whereas in the throwout there is no rock - just two tripples. If this is not true, and I believe it is because you can't have two different movements with the same name; tell us the secret.
Not the Whip
Posted by domanhcuong
12/20/2001  1:07:00 AM
Dear Blair and Jonathan

I know the Whip in Jive. The figure I have described isn't the Whip. Could anybody tell me what it is? Thank you.

TO ADMIN: What do you think of this figure? Could you give us an final answer? Thank you.

Manh Cuong
Hanoi, Vietnam

Jive
Posted by domanhcuong
12/17/2001  5:15:00 PM
Thank Jonathan

I have one more question about Jive. I see some dancers do a figure:
1. Man: From PP, LF back, replace weight on RF, then does a chasse (QaQ) to CPP. Timing QQ QaQ
Then from CPP, RF back,replace weight on LF, then do a chasse (QaQ) to PP. Timing QQ QaQ.
2. Lady: Does symmetrically

I don't know what the syllabus name is. Could you give me an answer for that. Thank you very much.

Regards,

Manh Cuong

Hanoi, Vietnam

re: ECS to Jive
Posted by Blair
12/19/2001  8:01:00 AM
Originally posted by domanhcuong:
Thank Jonathan

I have one more question about Jive. I see some dancers do a figure:
1. Man: From PP, LF back, replace weight on RF, then does a chasse (QaQ) to CPP. Timing QQ QaQ
Then from CPP, RF back,replace weight on LF, then do a chasse (QaQ) to PP. Timing QQ QaQ.
2. Lady: Does symmetrically

I don't know what the syllabus name is. Could you give me an answer for that. Thank you very much.

Regards,

Manh Cuong

Hanoi, Vietnam

I am not very familiar with International Style names. However, from your description this sounds like an 8-count figure similar to the 'whip' in WC swing or the 'Lindy basic'. There is a 'whip' in jive and this may be the figure you have seen.

Blair

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