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Fleckerl in Viennese Waltz
Posted by HaOanhTranThanh
4/4/2002  5:17:00 PM
Reverse Fleckerl & Natural Fleckerl are figures of Viennese Waltz. About Feet Position, Alignment, Footwork and Amount of Turn, we know well. But how about CBM, CBMP, sway and Rise and Fall for these figures?
Can someone please help us!

Thank for any responses
HaOanh TranThanh

re: Fleckerl in Viennese Waltz
Posted by HaOanhTranThanh
4/6/2002  4:45:00 PM
Hi Jonathan
You said
Natural: Man on 4, Lady on 1
But we find in page 310 of Ballroom Dancing by Alex Moore “Natural:for Lady C.B.M on 4”. May be Donak and ISTD book are right?
HaOanh TranThanh
re: Fleckerl in Viennese Waltz
Posted by HaOanhTranThanh
4/6/2002  4:42:00 PM
Hi Jonathan
You said
Natural: Man on 4, Lady on 1
But we find in page 310 of Ballroom Dancing by Alex Moore “Natural:for Lady C.B.M on 4”. May be Donak and ISTD book are fight?
HaOanh TranThanh
re: Fleckerl in Viennese Waltz
Posted by Administrator
4/5/2002  3:12:00 AM
CBMP is part of foot position descriptions, so if you're familiar with foot positions, you should already know whether a step is taken in CBMP or not. Of course in the case of the Fleckerls, it's easy to remember... none of the steps are taken in CBMP.

CBM occurs on count 1 and 4 for whomever is moving forward. The man and lady alternate, since when one is rotating in a forwardly direction the other is rotating to the side and back. Therefore when one of them has CBM the other does not. In terms of actual step numbers, the breakdown is thus:

Reverse: Man on 1, Lady on 4
Natural: Man on 4, Lady on 1

There is no rise & fall and no sway.

Regards,
Jonathan Atkinson
www.ballroomdancers.com

Fleckerls
Posted by Dronak
4/5/2002  8:13:00 AM
I'm looking in the short ISTD published Viennese waltz book I have and I think Jonathan (Administrator) is right as usual. I see "Rise and Fall: Nil", "Sway: Nil", and no mention of CBMP at all. On the other hand . . .

Originally posted by Administrator:

CBM occurs on count 1 and 4 for whomever is moving forward. . . . In terms of actual step numbers, the breakdown is thus:

Reverse: Man on 1, Lady on 4
Natural: Man on 4, Lady on 1

In the book I'm looking at, both figures have the same CBM -- man on 1 and lady on 4. I haven't learned Fleckerls myself so I can't give an explanation from personal experience. Which way is correct?

--
James Marshall
marshall@astro.umd.edu
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall

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