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slide show review
Posted by Carol
7/2/2000  12:56:00 PM
It's nice to see where each step ends up but I'd like to see the whole thing prevued on the same download.
Carol
re: slide show review
Posted by BDC Webmaster
7/4/2000  3:32:00 AM
Nice idea, but not technically possible just yet. Well, okay, it is possible, but the resulting file would be so huge that even DSL and cable modem users would spend a good hour or two downloading. (And I don't even want to think about those poor 56k and 28k dial-up users).

Why? Here's the scoop:

The slideshows are done in what is known as "smil" format. This relatively new format is designed specifically for slide show-type presentations. The file itself is actually very small, because it's just a text file that references other files (this is similar to the way html works). The "smil" file tells the RealPlayer where to find these files and when to play them, and each file is loaded one at a time as necessary. What the person viewing the slideshow doesn't know is that while he/she is watching one frame, the next frame is loading.

This is a very clever format, but it only works for still-shot slide shows. As far as I know, you cannot incorporate live-action video into it. If I were to create a live action video that contained the same amount of technical detail, lasting more than 2 & 1/2 mintes, it would be enormous... definitely too big to mass-distribute over the net, even if some people do have the patience for it.

In the meantime, we're stuck with one format or the other... or both, as long as you download them separately.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Atkinson www.ballroomdancers.com

re: slide show review
Posted by Carol
7/6/2000  11:55:00 PM
I have no idea what's involve with putting information up on a website. I have seen several websites with long salsa and swing teaching videos - I think one was about 30 minutes. Is the difference that here you have so much more than just the video clips?
re: slide show review
Posted by Dave L.
7/5/2000  12:02:00 AM
Carol:
Do you mean you wish to see a little more detailed description in the overview page like tabulated format of the old "Variation of the week"?
Dave
re: slide show review
Posted by BDC Webmaster
7/5/2000  5:24:00 AM
Dave,

I'm still toying with what to do on the overview page. The new layout presents a whole new set of circumstances, and I'm certainly not set on my current set of solutions. It will probably take a few weeks to work out.

The only problem I had with the overview chart was that I found it to be a bit redundant with the technical details. I was getting quite a few requests to go back to the old old format where we used to discuss the variation in detail with helpful hints. This would be great, too, but it tends to take so much more time to produce that it makes me more likely to fall behind schedule (and you've probably noticed that I'm struggling quite a bit to stay on schedule these days).

I also think that I can probably consolidate the start page and the overview page into one page, but I'm still not quite sure how to do it yet. I'll keep working on it.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Atkinson

re: slide show review
Posted by Jonathan Atkinson
7/7/2000  7:00:00 AM
There are many factors in creating web video which affect total download time. Some of the are:

Physical dimensions of the video window. Video in a 320x240 window is four times as large as video in a 160x120 window.

Video and audio quality. The lower the quality, the smaller the file size. Smaller files download faster.

Traffic. If you're the only one trying to download a video clip, you'll get it as quickly as your modem will allow. On the other hand, if you're downlading the same clip that 200 other people are also trying to get at, you're going to have to wait your turn in line.

You also have to understand that there are two types of video: "Streaming" video and "Download-first" video.

The concept behind download-first is fairly simple: You download the entire file, and then you watch it. These kinds of files require a lot of patience, but once you download one, you have it on your hard drive so that you can watch it over and over again.

With stremaing video, you watch as it is loading. Here's the catch: The video file must be small enough that the data comes into your computer as fast or faster than it plays on your screen. For someone with a 28k modem, that's a tiny video clip. That translates to poor quality video.

When creating video clips, we have to juggle all of these considerations around to come up with what we feel is the most practical solution. The creators of different websites all have their own ways of dealing with these issues. Ours was always to lean in the direction of higher quality video and slower download time.

When you watched the 30-minute video clip, you were definitely watching streaming video. If you're on a 56k modem, the video was probably rendered in a 160x120 window with high compression applied in order to squeeze it through a 56k line. (High compression translates to low quality).

For the teaching of dance steps, we find this solution impractical because you really need to have a clear view of what's going on, especially in the finer details of dancers' feet. Low-quality stremaing video is decent for general explanation and overview, but not very good as a tool for careful study and analysis of dance steps. And by the same token, high quality download-first video is impractical for simple explanations that only require a minimum of visual quality.

So for this reason, we've chosen to use two different video formats: High quality download-first video for live-action step demonstrations, and low to medium quality streaming format for the long, drawn-out explanations.

So why slideshows instead of low-quality video for the explanations? Again, we have a tendency to prefer visual quality, and the difference in visual quality between a slideshow and a streaming video of the same length is huge. True, you don't get the live action, but then you don't really need it. That's what the download-first video is for.

I also think that the web has unique advantages over conventional video, such as instant worldwide distribution, the ability to advance the video frame-by-frame, and the incorporation of additional multimedia elements and interactivity. Rather than trying to emulate conventional VHS video instruction, we like to try and take advantage of this medium by exploiting is strengths. If we try to use the web to do what VHS does so much better, than why not just go out and buy the VHS tape?

As the technology continues to improve, our choices may change in the future. Sometime down the road we'll probably be able to offer complete streaming instructional videos of any length to almost anyone. But for right now we're required to make choices. And these are the choices we've made so far.

Of course, we're willing to go with the flow, and if it turns out that the slideshows are unpopular, we'll stop doing them and try something else.

Sincerely,
Jonathan Atkinson www.ballroomdancers.com

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