| Dear all Could you please tell me some info about Chacha step (I mean step descriptions):
1. Time step. I don't know this figure
2. Curl (I know Curl in Rumba, but how different in Rumba it is?)
3. The difference between Shoulder-to-shoulder simple and Shoulder-to-shoulder Advanced
4. Is Forward and Backward Run in Int' style is the same as Progressive Lock in American Style? Thank you a lot. Regards, Manh Cuong |
| I believe that domanhcuong's point is that both man and lady cannot step on all five of 2 3 4&1 otherwise there is no foot change. Normally the man is the one that changes feet either by taking an extra step or by leaving out a step (which also includes "fake" steps, say a foot flick instead of an actual step with weight change). The latin technique book does describe the various methods of changing feet, but I don't know them well enough to give a shortened description and I don't want to just copy everything out of the book. If you want to know a specific change though, I'd be willing to copy that. I'm not going to copy all six (3 to same foot, 3 to opposite foot) though. --
James Marshall
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| Dear Dronak, Jonathan W Akinson, HaoanhTranthanh, Blair. Yes I think the meaning of that syllabus "Foot change" is the change of foot. If the dancer uses timing 234&1, there's no change. So I agree with Dronak your way. But how could we change foot, how many methods...? Could you please copy an example? Thank you and regards, Manh Cuong
Hanoi, Vietnam |
| Deal Dronak, Jonathan W Atkinson, Blair Thank for explain me how to do that. I have some more question about Chacha steps
1. How to do Spiral in chacha
2. How to do Foot Changes in chacha. (I think maybe it's timed 2341 to change foots, isn't it true?) Regards Manh Cuong |
| You said "How to do Foot Changes in chacha. (I think maybe it's timed 2341 to change foots, isn't it true?)". As far as we know this is a " Foot changes" in chacha. This syllabus is in common use in Fellowship examination of ISTD. It has three methods. You can check out it in pages 124-126 of ISTD book " Latin American Chachacha". It is counted "2.3.4&1". We hope that what we have written above is helpful. HaOanhTranThanh |
| I don't carry all five of the new latin technique books with me, just the one old copy that contains all five dances. I don't think the figures themselves changed much if at all during the revisions, so what I'll quote here about Foot Changes in cha cha from the old edition should be the same in the new edition. In the old edition, Foot Changes are not listed as a syllabus requirement, but I believe they are syllabus in the new edition. I think the number of listed methods are the same in both books, but I can check later if you need to know exact details from the new book. A. From Opposite Foot to Same Foot:
__1. To end with Lady behind or on R side, weight on LF (one method)
__2. To end with Lady behind or on R side, weight on RF (one method)
__3. To end with Lady behind, in front or on L side, weight on LF (one method) B. From Same Foot to Opposite Foot:
__1. With weight on RF, Lady behind Man, ending in Open Facing Position (two methods)
__2. With weight on RF, Lady behind, in front or on Man's L or R side, ending in Open Facing Position (one method)
__3. With weight on LF, Lady behind, in front or on Man's L or R side, ending in Open Facing Position (one method) So the old edition lists 7 methods of changing feet, 3 to the same foot, 4 to opposite feet. There are sometimes variations in the amount of turn made on the foot change to accomodate different starting or ending positions, mainly on the exits from opposite foot to same foot it seems.
If you want one example, I'll just quote the first one listed, Opposite to Same Foot, ending with Lady behind or on R side, weight on LF: "From an Open Facing Position both Man and Lady dance 1-7 of a Basic Movement. As Lady dances 8-10, Man steps foward on RF (count 4) then releasing with L hand steps forward LF (count 1) making 1/2 turn to R ending with LF back with Lady behind. He may move slightly to his R on the Foot Change to end with Lady on his R side." I hope this helps. --
James Marshall
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| The forward & backward runs are a fundamental "action" or "component", not an actual figure. Just like the chasse and the lock steps, forward & backward runs are an option for your Cha Cha Cha action on 4&1 of the Progressive Basic, or of any figure which uses progressive action on 4&1. The basic components are identical and bear the same names in both American and Int'l styles. Chasses, lock steps, forward & backward runs, breaks, checks, etc... they're consistent across the board. It's not until we get into the figures that the styles part company (and even then, not as much as you might think). Jonathan |
| LF Time Step -- LF behind RF, toe slightly turned out, 2; replace weight to RF, 3; LF to side to chasse LRL, 4&1 RF Time Step -- RF behind LF, toe slightly turned out, 2; replace weight to LF, 3; RF to side to chasse RLR, 4&1 Time steps are commonly danced in an open position without hold, say after a spot turn, and in a short combination: (1) man LF Time Step, lady RF Time Step, (2) man RF Time Step, lady LF Time Step, (3) man Spot Turn to R, lady RF Time Step, (4) man RF Time Step, lady Spot Turn to R. It's also often done with guapacha timing (hold the 2, step on &, then 3 4&1 as normal). The Curl in cha cha is the same as in rumba except you have the 4&1 instead of a 4, hold 1. Since you just asked for the difference between the simple and advanced Shoulder to Shoulder, I'm assuming you know basically what the figure is. The only real difference is that the simple version is done in a closed facing position and the advanced version is done in an open facing position, one or two hand hold (either should work, but a two hand hold is probably a bit easier). I'm not certain on your last question, but I think there's a difference between an international Foward and Back Run and an American Progressive Lock. I think if the international figure wanted you to do cha cha locks, it would have said "lock" instead of "run". I think a "run" normally passes the feet, so I don't think these two figures are the same. I don't know American style very well though, so I could be wrong. I hope this helps. --
James Marshall
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http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall |
| A cha cha Spiral is basically the same thing as a rumba Spiral. The lady doesn't have as much time for the spiral turn in cha cha as in rumba. She only gets the 1 to step and turn in cha cha, but has all of 4-1 to step and turn in rumba. The figures are pretty much the same besides changing the 4, hold 1 into a 4&1. I've never been taught Foot Changes in cha cha. The old latin technique book that I have with me lists three ways to switch from opposite foot to same foot and three ways to switch from same foot to opposite foot. Which you use seems to depend on your starting position and desired ending position. It looks like the timing used depends on which foot change you're doing. I know nothing about this besides what I can read in the book and I don't want to copy that here. Perhaps someone else who knows the figures better will be able to describe cha cha Foot Changes for you. --
James Marshall
marshall@astro.umd.edu
http://www.astro.umd.edu/~marshall |
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